Rhiannon Tracey: 'The Sex Lives of College Girls'

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coming up on reframed along with this

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week's special guest rhiannon tracy

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today we'll be discussing the sex lives

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of college girls she was just one of the

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gals

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having a good bloody time

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you know living her best life she just

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gets all the hot guys to lift her in

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obviously don't have an only fans never

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gonna get one disclaimer

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[Music]

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welcome back to reframed the podcast

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that reframes had disabilities portrayed

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in film and tv

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i'm your host jason climo and today i

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have the wonderful robin lambert with me

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as my co-host along with this week's

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special guest rhiannon tracy today we'll

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be discussing the sex lives of college

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girls which is a tv show very funny and

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lots of fun but before we get stuck into

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that let's say hello to rhiannon and

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learn a little bit more about her so

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welcome to the podcast rihannon did you

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just want to start off by telling

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everyone a bit about you and what you do

Rhiannon Tracey

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hi sure um thanks for having me totally

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hyped for this jason we always have such

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a blast when we do anything together so

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this is probably going to be hilarious

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uh my name is brianna

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sorry my name is rhiannon i have been

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in a chair for 13 years so i have a

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spinal cord injury due to a diving

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accident in bali

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i wear many different hats in what i

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like to call my real life so i am the

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founding director of a spinal cord

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injury recovery and wellness center

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called the next step i'm a keynote

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speaker and presenter i am a model and

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i'm also a lifestyle actor and inclusion

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influencer across all social media

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platforms

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so that's me in a nutshell did you want

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to tell us a little bit more about your

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life as a

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model and a public speaker and also have

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you experienced any barriers being

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having a disability and being working in

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those industries

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absolutely so i tell people that i

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literally fell into every career that

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i'm in now and when i literally felt

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like i fell into a swimming pool

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so

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i have just really

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strived to create

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i guess a safe space and platforms in

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everything that i do and basically

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create what wasn't there when i needed

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it 13 years ago so

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even though the disability access and

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inclusion has definitely advanced in the

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last 13 years if i rewind the clock 13

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years ago lying in a hospital bed

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looking for hope looking for options and

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looking for a unedited raw version of

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how my life might play out over the rest

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of my life

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there weren't many answers to all the

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questions that i had so

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i have just literally gone out and

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answered those questions myself gathered

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the knowledge gather gathered the people

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um and created the things that

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many of us within the disability

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community needed so for example having

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my injury at 20 years old there were

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no options for somebody who wanted them

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to improve their quality of life after

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an injury like this here in australia

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the general mentality within our medical

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system here is get you independent in a

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chair and then whatever you do after you

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leave hospital

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is up to you

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so i

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wasn't happy or satisfied with that as

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many of us go through who have had an

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injury like this and when i speak when i

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speak about disability and injury

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obviously it's always going to be from

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the perspective of somebody with a

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spinal cord injury because that's what

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i'm living with as well as jay i'm i'm

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not familiar with your story robin so

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please excuse my ignorance

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but um yeah so i

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i visited a facility in america which

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was incredible as incredible as it was

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we're still lacking um quite a number of

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support systems be it mental

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as well as emotional support so

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i basically collected all the

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information from around the world and

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opened my own spinal cord injury

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recovery center um here in melbourne so

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we opened in

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2013

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it was eight years ago quick math not my

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strongest suit um and then i

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oh yeah definitely not my forte and then

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i

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just

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went on to uh use my voice so my

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background before my injury was

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i was a veterinary nurse but i also was

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um a musician so i sang and played piano

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and wasn't able to sing the way that i

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used to due to my level of injury i'm a

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c5 incomplete quad so i had my vocal

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chords tampered with during my three

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surgeries um so i decided to use my

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voice in different ways and given that i

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set my facility up as a not-for-profit

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organization i needed to go out and talk

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about why

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this facility was important and during

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that was invited to speak at my high

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school which i i was

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politely told to leave

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as a student

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um which was

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a huge awakening for me because i found

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myself speaking about the things that i

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wish somebody had spoken to me about as

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a 16 year old when i had no idea what i

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wanted to do with my life and i realized

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that even with what i was going through

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with my injury it was relatable to how i

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felt when i was 16 like i had no answers

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and i had no idea

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what to do

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and it turned out that 1200 students

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could relate to that as well so i guess

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that set a fire in my belly um to ensure

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that even though i wasn't singing and i

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wasn't expressing passion or emotion

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vocally by singing i could

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with speaking so

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i've been doing that and that has been

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an absolute game changer and life

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changer for myself and

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hopefully my audiences

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and then in that i've found more gaps

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within

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you know the fashion industry the beauty

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industry many many industries who

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are not fulfilling the disability

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representation

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niche like they should be

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so um yeah using my voice in that sense

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to kind of call them out but at the same

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time work with them to show them how

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they can do better because i guess

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you know the difference with somebody

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who's

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an injury that has led to a disability

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is that we have had the life experience

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of being somebody who is ignorant to

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disability so we can have these

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conversations from both perspectives

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and instead of getting angry and pissed

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off about the lack of inclusion and

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accessibility

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i think we have a little bit of

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understanding as to why

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things haven't happened as fast as we

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we know they should have

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um and i find that

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you know approaching these conversations

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with a sense of understanding instead of

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going you know head first a wheel first

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into them and being like you should be

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doing better going into them you know

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with a bit of empathy

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generally has a better outcome

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you do so many wonderful amazing things

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and i feel like we could talk for hours

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about it and i would love to do that but

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we don't have hours today so my next

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question i think we should give a bit

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more of a highlight about the next step

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and tell people a bit more detail about

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what you do there

The Next Step

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absolutely and then i'm going to ask you

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to tell people about your experience at

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the next step being a

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og tns athlete as we call them but um so

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the next step

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i feel like that was the last time ago

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but here we are

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so long so the next step is a facility

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that thrives on support for everybody

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affected directly and indirectly by

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whether it be a spinal cord injury or

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any other disability or neurological

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condition we are now open to the general

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public because turns out everybody wants

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to improve their life especially after

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um but we incorporate

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a bunch of holistic modalities that

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complement exercise physiology which is

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what our main

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focus is exercise physiology so as i

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mentioned earlier the general mindset

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behind our rehabilitation systems in

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australia and

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you know just um

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i ha i have to just say like disclaimer

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here they exist to provide something

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that is incredibly important but

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the next step literally is the next step

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like once you leave

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here's an option for you so we

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specialize in exercise physiology and

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work the body as a whole so we don't

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pinpoint

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what's working and what's not which is

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kind of what we go through going through

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the hospital system

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we literally treat the body as a whole

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and like i mentioned earlier we support

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everybody that's affected so you know

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the families the support workers the

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partners it's really a community of

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people who have just come together and

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needed

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the information and education and the

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options um jason's been there before so

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he's experienced it and yeah it's it's

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given me a purpose definitely you know

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it gives me a reason to get out of bed

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every single day post an injury like

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this it's definitely helped me

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overcome so many obstacles that have

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been because of my injury and disability

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but also because of things like events

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that have occurred throughout my life

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that would happen to anybody so i think

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i i really think we should rename it a

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trauma recovery center because we all

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experience trauma

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all of us every single one of us in some

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way shape or form so

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and that's what it seems like you really

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focus a lot on now as well um you know i

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went through seven or eight years ago

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something

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hectic like that i can't believe it's

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that long ago when we first met but you

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know the shift that i've seen in the

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organization is this incredible like you

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know that more holistic approach and

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treating you know everybody

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with that more holistic approach i think

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is amazing and also treating like not

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you know just specific symptoms of like

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a spinal cord injury or something like

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that and focusing just on you know

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walking again it's more about like

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recovery of like mind body soul and all

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that kind of stuff so

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i think

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that's awesome and i've loved watching

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that grow and i've loved watching you

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grow as well and you know you saw me as

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just like such a fresh little

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man in a chair

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i'm sure i've changed a lot since then

The Next Step Evolution

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i think it's been it's been an awesome

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kind of evolution for the facility

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because obviously as i've evolved

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throughout this injury and just

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throughout life in general

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so has the facility and being i guess

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the founder the facility itself exists

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because of what happened to me you know

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so

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i think when you have an injury like

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this the initial goal is you know we

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want to get back up on our feet and

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that's for some not for everybody um but

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i think since the day of inception with

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the next step

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the reason we decided to call it the

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next step as opposed to other facilities

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that have existed

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with the word walk in their title or

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their name is because it's never really

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been about

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you know

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we've never highlighted the fact that

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life can't be good unless you're walking

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you know it's always been we're here to

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improve your quality of life we'll

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celebrate every achievement and

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milestone in which we'll assist you with

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like even if you can feel a fart for the

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first time we're gonna celebrate that

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but um you know in saying that yes we

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have seen many people get back up on

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their feet but i know as somebody who is

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who is living with this injury

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i had my own realization many many moons

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ago that

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my quality of life is going to be better

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in a chair yes i can walk

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like a drunk person

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um but

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i can do more in my chair and i can

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actually generally be happier doing the

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things that i did previously in a more

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adaptive way in my chair

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yeah and that's a big thing to break

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down as well especially for people who

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like

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have an injury and and i guess acquire

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disabilities you know there's this whole

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thing that's always about like finding a

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cure and

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changing your body whereas you know we

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like to come from the social model of

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disability which is about like

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you know regardless of your ability

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regardless of what kind of symptoms or

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what kind of impairments you may have

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society should still be providing what

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you need to actually thrive as a human

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being so absolutely i love that and i'm

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yeah yeah i think robin has one last

Representation Matters

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question final question the question

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that we like to add on talking about

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breaking things down and evolving um why

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do you think representation matters

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whether that's in tv film or fashion

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well i have two answers for that first

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of all the people who are not including

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those living with disabilities in

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their

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everything

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um

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it's a huge loss for them for a start

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because they're losing money because at

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the end of the day

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all of us living with disabilities we're

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still buying the clothes or wearing the

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clothes we're still buying the beauty

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products we're still living

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you know in the same normalities as an

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able-bodied person so you know boohoo

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for all these people who haven't come to

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this realization you're losing money

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here

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um and also because we are we being us

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with disabilities we are human so

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it's inhumane to not include us

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we

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like i just said we're doing all the

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same things we're using the same things

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i'm sure

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i use a lot more beauty products than

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some but you know we all need shampoo we

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all need a toothbrush

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you know like

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where we are buying the things that

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able-bodied people are buying for

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the sake of this conversation these

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people not including us they're losing

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money why should they include us because

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we're freaking human beings there's a

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lot of money to be made basically and

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that's the business case of it all so

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absolutely lastly where can people

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follow you and or hire you

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uh you can follow me at rhiannon tracy

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my real life across all social media

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platforms and click the fun little links

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in there to hire me what's the thing

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don't have an only fans never going to

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get one disclaimer

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[Laughter]

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we've got this recorded so if you ever

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start one i can send it to you as a

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little bit and be like you said

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beautiful well that was so fun obviously

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it was always going to be fun with that

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big smiley face of yours and i'm sure

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everybody loved getting to know you but

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i think it's time now to jump in

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analyzing sex lives of college girls so

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robin can you kick us off with uh the

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description it's basically just a comedy

Synopsis

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show about a bunch of girls who are

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going off to college for the first time

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and it's their exploits or should i say

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sex plates at uh

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at uni and you know them trying to hook

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up and

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the general things that people do when

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they first go off to college but i guess

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interestingly for us it has a character

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uh with a disability um called lolo no

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that's the actor's name i can't remember

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what the character is called but there

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is a character with a disability yeah at

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the college

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yeah

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and lola

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is

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i literally had that in my notes so it's

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like lolo is just the best

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yep

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we'll kick it off ran in do you want to

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just start us off by letting us know

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what you thought about the disability

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portrayal so i stumbled across this

Disability Representation

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particular show

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on one of those late nights of like i

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have nothing to watch

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and

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it was so relatable in so many aspects

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not only did they have representation in

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not just the disability representation

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but across many different minority

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groups

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i loved

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this particular character and i'm

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talking about the character in the

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wheelchair that we don't remember her

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name but we remember her we know her

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name as an actress

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um because she represented me like five

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years ago so the crazy party girl in the

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electric chair that was like running

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into everyone and just not giving a

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and making out with all the boys and

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wearing the bloody clothes

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um

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yeah i just i loved that they actually

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used a disabled actor as well because i

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think as

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a universe

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we have progressed immensely when it

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comes to not using able-bodied people to

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play disabled people

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so i'm loving seeing that across many

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many different shows at the moment um

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but i just loved that she was like this

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young vibrant like

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don't give a character and her

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disability wasn't even really spoken

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about i don't believe like again i

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watched it a couple of months ago but

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i'm pretty sure like there was no

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pinpointing conversation about her

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disability she was included amongst the

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friendship group and none of the friends

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really like

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raised

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that conversation she was really just

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included she was just one of the gals

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having a good bloody time

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you know living her best life

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yeah literally and going to naked

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parties amazing i would never go to a

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naked party oh my god i mean maybe i

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would

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i don't know no only friends no naked

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parties anything else

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yeah i mean never say never

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true true

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but you're right on the money like there

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was it was incidental representation in

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in terms of like nothing was actually

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mentioned about i believe her name was

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jocelyn by the way i do google that when

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i may or may not have done that yeah

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yeah

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i may or may not have just done a really

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quick google

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uh and

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yeah nobody actually mentions anything

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about her disability at all and it's

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amazing because that is what we need

18:30

more of because she just got to be this

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like

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confident like sex positive

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sexy amazing woman who was just like

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going about doing it i loved that the

Sex Advice

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other characters were like going to her

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for sex advice too like when does that

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ever happen in like tv like she's so sex

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positive and so confident of herself and

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i feel like they always kind of portray

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disabled people as these like naive

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little like virgins but that's obviously

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obviously not the case

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and victims like victims there's always

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a poor me mentality when it comes to

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disability representation in film

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yeah exactly like i feel like they might

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have typecasted i don't know because she

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seems like that in irl um

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literally but also like it's just so

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great to see that type of representation

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and i'd like noted down that there was a

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part where she was like i pull like she

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was just like

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like she absolutely slays like

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she's

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all the guys were just like checking her

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out sort of thing so

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i absolutely love that one thing i also

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noticed was that there was also um

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a point where it was probably where they

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were like all rocking up on the first

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day or something but there was like a

19:40

background character who was also a

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wheelchair user there was a couple of

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times in the b-roll where there was like

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different characters rolling past yeah

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so i thought that was awesome finally a

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college that doesn't have just one

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disabled person

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literally because that's like our whole

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thing is that like when it does happen

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it's usually like only one token

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character and i thought that was really

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cool that they did that and it'll be

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really interesting to see in future

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seasons because if there aren't going to

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be future seasons because it's

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amazing but it'll be really interesting

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future seasons to see if they like

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integrate other i guess disability

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experiences throughout as well

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because i only noticed wheelchair users

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so i sort of thought like they might be

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interesting to show like invisible

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disability or just something that's not

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a wheelchair user so

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yeah

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did you notice anything you didn't

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really like about it

College Entry

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i was waiting for you to be like oh and

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the college entry had ramps and knocked

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upstairs or something like that because

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i feel like you definitely did they i i

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don't know

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yeah

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i don't know i wish i noticed that i

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feel like i'm gonna go back

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how the did she get in there

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yeah like there's no ramps at all how

20:54

the how the hell did this girl get into

20:57

about school like

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um

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i mean i she just gets all the hot guys

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to lift her in obviously

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yes they were the same person

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um

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yeah i i mean like maybe they maybe they

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could have included that

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they could have included that maybe they

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did and we just didn't notice but i

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don't know like i'm not sure that there

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was really nothing i could think of off

21:22

the top of my head but and that being

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said you know like

21:25

13 years in a chair i'm still learning

21:29

disability things you know what i mean

21:31

like i'm

21:32

you know like i even get called out on

21:35

things that i miss

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and that's how like even it doesn't

21:38

matter who i'm speaking to like i always

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make sure that i throw those disclaimers

21:42

in there like you know i'm not perfect

21:45

nobody's perfect i'm still human

21:47

you know there's still things that i'm

21:49

learning and i think things keep

21:50

changing you know so dramatically that

21:53

sometimes it's really hard to keep up

21:54

with all the things so

21:56

um i can't think of anything from the

21:58

top of my head that i probably would

21:59

have included more of because i really

22:02

feel like she was just

22:04

there was no tokenism in any of the

22:07

characters it was just they were all

22:09

just there like they were all just there

22:11

doing their thing and i think i really

22:12

appreciated that because i feel like

22:14

tokenism is definitely a thing that is

22:17

very obvious more so probably to us in

22:20

the disability community but yeah that

22:22

was definitely not portrayed within this

22:24

show

22:25

i think for me like um she was obviously

22:27

one of the main side characters and she

22:30

gets a she gets a fair bit of airtime

22:31

but it would be nice to see her as like

22:33

one of the main four that would have

22:35

been that would have been awesome like

22:36

the character was so well done and so

22:39

well developed i think she could have

22:40

had more time even

22:42

yeah and i kind of missed her like in

22:44

the episodes yeah she wasn't there i was

22:46

like i want her

22:48

in this situation yeah she's so far

22:51

i mean i think i can speak from

22:53

experience with

22:54

castings

22:56

um and like shows like this only because

22:58

i

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okay so i was

23:01

i was almost on this season of math

23:04

um and

23:06

there had also been talk about me

23:09

potentially casting for a bachelorette

23:11

role as well

23:12

and the

23:14

now i have a partner and i'm very very

23:15

happy and you'll never see me on any of

23:17

those shows like

23:19

yeah um i i know that they generally

23:22

throw these characters into the mix to

23:24

see what the reaction is

23:26

before they give them a pivotal role in

23:28

the series like this which i think is a

23:31

bit

23:32

um but again you don't know what you

23:34

don't know so a show like this i guess

23:36

you know at the end of the day

23:38

this is an investment for the networks

23:41

and for the show itself so maybe she

23:44

will get her own

23:45

you know shining lee role in the next

23:48

season let's touch wood let's hope and

23:49

pray that she does um because i feel

23:51

like definitely she played such an

23:54

amazing character that like you said jay

23:56

like they want to see more roles exactly

23:58

and it's time to see this type of thing

24:01

like this type of representation more

24:03

consistent as well across across the

24:05

board because it's like we shouldn't

24:07

just you know this whole podcast

24:08

shouldn't even exist we shouldn't have

24:10

to actually sit here and talk about

24:12

you know and then score and be so

24:14

excited that we've got like a disabled

24:16

character that actually is just like

24:19

awesome and incidental and sassy and has

24:22

sex and like

24:23

you know isn't desexualized and pitied

24:26

and all that crap like we shouldn't

24:28

actually have to be like yay but well

24:30

that's where we're at i think the

Disability Inclusion

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world's still walking on eggshells when

24:34

it comes to dipping their toes and

24:35

they're disabled like disability

24:37

inclusion and that's what i want to see

24:39

just completely be abolished over the

24:41

next few years like

24:43

the arms and arms sorry i swear a

24:46

lot

24:48

sorry i'm a very passionate person um

24:51

but like throw the arms and arms in the

24:52

bin and don't just like wonder what's

24:55

gonna happen if you throw somebody like

24:56

this into the mix because at the end of

24:59

the day i go back to

25:01

we're human so

25:02

why the hell not why shouldn't there be

25:04

a character and also like the money

25:07

factor

25:08

yeah and like but like you said as well

25:09

before like the money factor for like

25:11

film and tv like

25:13

as if eternals would have done anywhere

25:15

near as well if they hadn't been more

25:18

like had hadn't been so inclusive like

25:20

that representation was great as well

25:21

and we've spoken about that in a

25:23

previous episode but because we talk a

25:25

lot a lot about i guess um like pleasing

25:27

able-bodied audiences and letting them

25:29

dip their toes in and stuff but at the

25:30

end of the day like the disability

25:32

community is huge

25:34

um so if we can tap into that market

25:36

like there's a lot of disabled dollars

25:38

so i think some of the the

25:40

nerves around that sort of just someone

25:42

just needs to do it like

25:44

yeah and people are like doing it but

25:46

slowly and i think you know

25:48

you know the ones that are going to do

25:50

it first are they going to be the ones

25:51

that get the maximum benefit and it

25:53

doesn't matter what industry like you

25:55

know fashion probably especially like

25:57

and i'm talking like campaign and i'm

25:59

i'm talking as well as editorial stuff

26:02

like

26:02

whoever does it well first is going to

26:05

see some mega money

26:10

on that i think it's time to give our

26:12

scores out of five on the inclusive

26:14

disability representation scale robin

26:17

did you want to kick us yeah man i was

Rating

26:19

so close to giving this a five like

26:22

but again like my only hesitation was

26:24

like i thought she could have been a

26:25

main character like i just i thought the

26:27

potential was there what that might

26:28

happen in the next season and then 100

26:30

like that that's getting a five but yeah

26:32

i gave it four and a half because i

26:33

thought it was it was pretty bang on the

26:34

money on this one

26:36

yeah i'm with robin here i'm four and a

26:38

half pending a five on the next season

26:41

there's always room for improvement i'm

26:44

i'm exactly the same i'm a four and a

26:46

half and i think you know come next

26:48

season if we do see more

26:49

more characters of disability or more of

26:52

jocelyn or lola's character

26:55

you know i think i would be a five as

26:57

well but

26:58

hopefully

26:59

there will be a season two and hopefully

27:02

they do what we want

27:04

all right let's tag them let's just call

27:07

them out

27:08

honestly and i think like that's one

27:10

thing as well as you know once people

27:11

become more educated around inclusion

27:14

and representation it is just about like

27:16

asking

27:17

for it because you know as much as we

27:19

say that the disability community as

27:21

well you know makes up roughly 20

27:24

of the population and we are you know

27:27

quite influential and we do have a lot

27:29

of money to to be spending um we also

27:33

you know aren't the majority so we do

27:35

still need allies to come and you know a

27:38

uplift us to

27:40

amplify a message in three also just

27:42

like if you're a consumer ask for better

27:44

like you know it's you know consumer

27:46

markets are so competitive it's like if

27:48

you if enough of you literally out there

27:51

are like asking for better

27:52

representation of people with disability

27:54

they're going to eventually listen

27:55

because

27:56

they want the money so

27:58

anyway that's my little rant over and i

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think

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