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Charlotte Kelly of Soul II Soul
Fresh from Soul II Soul’s triumphant 2023 Australian tour, lead singer Charlotte Kelly speaks with Studio 1.
Fresh from Soul II Soul’s triumphant 2023 Australian tour, we speak to lead singer Charlotte Kelly.
Please get in touch with the show if you have experience of the issues covered in this episode of Studio 1, or if there’s something you think we should be talking about.
You never know, your story and your insight may help someone who is going through something similar.
[PHOTO CAPTION: Soul II Soul’s Charlotte Kelly on stage, mic in hand blonde dreads a-flyin’.]
Vision Australia gratefully acknowledges the support of the Community Broadcasting Foundation for Studio 1.
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This is Studio one on Vision Australia Radio.
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On this week's Studio One, Fresh from Soul to Soul's Victorious 2023 Australian Tour. Our guest is lead singer Charlotte Kelly.
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Could be there.
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For. If you want me.
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This is Studio one on Vision Australia Radio.
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Hello, I'm Matthew. And I'm Sam. And this is Studio one, your weekly look at life from a low vision and blind point of view here on Vision Australia Radio. On this week's show, our guest is the current lead singer of Soul to Soul, the Soul Music Collective. Her name is Charlotte Kelley, and we think she's rather lovely, as we always say.
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At this point. Please do get in touch with the show. Whether you have experience of any of the issues covered in this episode of Studio One or if you think there's something we should be talking about, you never know. Your story and your insight may help somebody else who is dealing with something similar.
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Sam That's exactly right. I've just looked you up.
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All right, I'm still there. Good. I just have fear of typing the letters x.com. Given what 35% of internet traffic is used for, I would be slightly nervous of entering that into my browser.
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Hello there, Sam.
S4
Hello there, Matthew. So, yes, big news when it comes to our exes. Any number of things that we can do regarding Yes X or.
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Let's move on from there. Sam It's a bit it's a bit too soon for that one, I think. Our guest this week is Charlotte Kelly as, as we speak, I'm just about to head out and meet her for lunch in a pub by the river down in Hammersmith here in London. I'm very much looking forward to finally meeting her in the flesh. She's been on the show before. Sam, have you do you recall this or is it before your time?
S4
I certainly do recall it. I believe we've we've yeah, we spoke to a few times over my time being here. It's also I got memories of Hammersmith, this where I used to end up when I'd get on the wrong train. Yeah. So there's actually other stuff out there, is there?
S2
Yeah, it is the end of. Of all of the wrong train lines. Yeah. But Charlotte. So last time she was on we got into a bit of trouble because we were having the old conversation about people thinking that we're either stoned or drunk all the time because of our wobbly eyes. And basically somebody in management misheard and thought we were talking about ecstasy and marijuana on the radio and they were just about to send us some drug safeguarding leaflets when actually what Charlotte said was that she didn't smoke drugs. Yes.
S4
Yes. And we would like to make that point. We actually do tend to steer away from illicit drugs where possible.
S2
We've got enough...
S4
Problems of our own.
S2
Yes, exactly. We don't need anything in addition. So this is the last show I shall be recording at this particular venue. Sam I'm moving into my flat on the estate for people with vision impairments. Next week. I've got the keys and yeah, I am. It's interesting. It's it's the place seems to be full of very interesting people with dogs and white canes, including one very striking young lady who I'm going to try and talk to who really cut a dash, you know, with her, with her white stick firmly in front of her. But I had the thing with my friend Paula, who lives on the estate and who showed me the property and introduced me to the thing. She lives just around the corner and she did the thing the other day. I said we were walking round to my flat. I said, Where's your where's your stick? And where's the dog? And she went, I don't want to be blind today. That's something we've encountered, isn't it?
S4
Yes, indeed. And that's exactly the same point as someone in a wheelchair once made to me is, Oh, I wish I could fold up my wheelchair and stick it in my back pocket.
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Yeah, no, fair enough. It's absolutely fair enough. Cool. All right. Here's the interview with Charlotte.
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This is Studio one on Vision Australia Radio.
S5
That's fantastic. I love it.
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Let's do some work. Okay. Joining us now, gentle listener. I don't want to say the thing that I would normally say, which is, you know, the lead singer with soul collective soul to soul and say...
S5
What you would want to say, then?
S2
I think my new friend Charlotte Kelly. That's all right. That sounds...
S5
Right. I'm feeling that.
S2
We've just had a lovely lunch and a conversation. We didn't finish any single topic, did we?
S5
No.
S2
But it's been lovely to connect with somebody who. Well, it's that thing that happened on the way down, isn't it? It's like, Oh, you won't be able to. You know I won't be able to see you. You'll see me first. When you seem to have forgotten me. Quite. Why? We know each other.
S5
Yeah, that's true.
S2
Where do we start? Should we start with. And your dad? Yeah. Because I think both of our dads have been important in our lives, and they haven't mollycoddle somebody.
S5
Not at all. Yeah, it was. It was definitely combat training for me in terms of my... I remember my father saying when we came back from an eye examination, which happened a lot, and we always left a bit depressed because the thing was, well, no, she's got tunnel vision, she's got nice diagnosis, she's blind in her right eye and it's not going to change and she will be blind before she's 50. I'll be 50 in a few months and I'm not blind yet. Completely yet. So that's that's been success. So Dad said, well, actually nobody cares that you might be blind. So we need to make sure that you are able to get around. And that was his philosophy.
S2
You know what you turned up today and I think your sight is a little worse than mine. Yeah. Um, but you turned up basically independent. Yeah. Incredibly well presented. I say not in a rude way. Yeah, but no white cane for you?
S5
No. I mean, you know, when we had our lovely lunch, you did mention that you knew someone who had a pink cane. So I'm feeling jealous. I think. Really? She needs to give that to me. Okay.
S2
Well, we'll just go around the house and nick it off her. That's fine.
S5
Yeah, because there's a blind person. I'm great at stealing things.
S2
Well, that's right. You won't notice. Um, but yeah, it is. It is. So she funnily enough, she. She was talking about my friend Paula. She. We walked from her flat to my flat the other day, and she didn't take her home with her because she went today. I don't want to be blind.
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Oh.
S2
You know what I mean? Some days you just don't want to look it. But you don't.
S5
Do you know why? Because I spent a lot of time feeling angry when I was out of school and Dad was giving me the combat training. So I went through things like my my exam paper was four times the size of my desk. I had to be escorted to my classroom. Otherwise I'd end up at a totally different classroom, which I would insist was my classroom wasn't. And I did all kinds of crazy things. And so I think that in the end, what happened is I just ended up realising that I can stay angry about being blind. And I was angry when I was younger because I didn't feel that I wanted to carry that. Whereas now I've decided to see it as a as an asset. You know, I look like I take lines of coke, but I don't because my eyes are a bit neurotic. Some days I put makeup in the wrong places and I just decided to love myself and accept that this is where where I am. And if I can't change it, then I need to see it from a different perspective so that I can feel happier about it. And it's worked out well for me. That way.
S2
Takes time, though, doesn't.
S5
It? It does. Takes time and it takes perseverance, but it also takes acceptance and being prepared. I have to be honest, it might be slightly easier for me from the point of view that because I work in the world of entertainment, everybody knows that all entertainers want to be unique. You know, that's the first thing an entertainer will want because it makes them stand out. And in the beginning, I didn't have a choice because I stood out because of that. Just silly things like I dye my hair blonde, so I can't just dye it dark blonde, which is what it was when I started. No, it couldn't get any whiter now. And I don't know whether that's a sight thing. So, you know, always wanting things to be louder and bigger than they really are. Bright colours. Yeah.
10:52
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Bright colours. We were talking about bright colors weren't we. Overlooked. Yeah we were. And how we keep track of our things and our children by making sure they're brightly coloured.
S5
Absolutely. My son looks like a neon light in the park. Bless his heart, you know. But it's...
S2
Not. Why am I wearing electric pink again?
S5
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And you know, the thing is, I just sort of explained to him, I mean, luckily he likes bright orange, and I just have to hope there's no other child in the park with bright orange. Otherwise I'll take someone else's kid.
S2
Home.
S5
That won't go down well. But, you know, these are the things that we go through. And if I put the keys down, like I have to make a concerted effort to put the keys, as soon as I've opened the door, the keys go in my bag, in the same pocket, in the bag. Otherwise, they're not going to be found, which means late to leave the house. The same with the phone and all sorts of things like that. Really.
S2
I have mine is my. The, the. The working kitchen thing. Yeah. Um, you know that some people think more things in a. Is a good idea. I think the five things that I actually need are the good idea because then you can grab them and you know where they are. Fewer things, more space. Do you cook?
S5
I do. With that, I do cook. I'm not great at cooking. I, I think, to be honest, I'm slightly lazy at cooking because I have a mum who cooks amazing food, so I am slightly lazy. It's not that I can't. I just tend not to really enjoy it that much. But there are, you know, I do have the five thing rule in a way like you do. I've got the thing about plates and I love British tea. Like the idea of having the China and the tea, which is a bit scary because allowing a blind person near China is not always.
S2
You know, you know, so. So it's funny you should say that because. Uh, only within the last couple of years. And it is to do with getting older and acceptance and getting over yourself. Yeah, but also turning it to your advantage. Yes. I have started to ask in restaurants, can I please have a stemless wine glass? Yeah. Or a whiskey glass. Because again, it's that it's that thing of I am going to knock this over at some point. Absolutely. Particularly, I don't know about you, but I get worse after about three drinks. My hands are everywhere. And I, you know, can't judge distance.
S5
I'm the same because I have I have a lack of a concept of depth so I can go to hold the glass, but I can not realise how near or far away the glass is. You have to.
S2
Work your way towards it.
S5
Yeah, I do.
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Feel it slowly.
S5
Yeah, there are ways around that. So, you know, for instance, if you've got the wine glass in front of you, so I'll slide my hand across the table now till I find the glass and then I can caress the stem. And that hopefully means that. But it's the same when I'm talking.
S2
Say caress the stem on my radio program. I mean.
S5
How? I don't know what you call it.
S2
Yeah, no, I know exactly what you mean. You just gradually work your way.
S5
Sorry, I am a songwriter, you know, you did ask me to come here and...
S2
But yeah, so. So I dare you. And the next time we catch up, I dare you at some point to go to a restaurant and to turn to the waiting staff and go, Please, can I have a stemless wine glass? It's really liberating.
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I will do.
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It. It's really liberating.
S5
I have to be honest, I haven't thought of it, which seems ridiculous that I haven't thought of it.
S2
When was the last time you broke a wine glass in a restaurant?
S5
It was. It wasn't in a restaurant, but it was at my sister's house. And it was pure crystal or whatever you call it. And yet it was two weeks ago.
S2
Sunday for me.
S5
You beat me. Yeah.
S2
When I interviewed the guy who does the blind show on BBC Radio four, Piece of White. I brought this topic up with him and he said, Oh yeah, my wife got me a box of six wine glasses for Christmas with the stems on as a joke. And they're all gone now.
S5
That's brilliant.
S2
But it does happen. But it's it's that thing that you were talking about as we had lunch of almost exposing your weakness and using that to your...
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Advantage in it. Yeah I really.
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Cynical doesn't it.
S5
It does, but in a way it's not. And the reason I think it's not is that I've learned that there is a difference between codependency and interdependence. And the reason that we're born together is to exist together on the planet. So if I can't ask for your help, whoever you are, then I think that that's a sad state of affairs, really. And it's also about being able to like you say, there's there's an endearment that goes with that. I mean, I use voice notes a lot. Yeah.
S2
You did. You did on me today. And in fact, this show will open with me going from texting to using the voice notes because you voice noted me and I think it's the tone of voice stuff is really important. I love it more.
S5
Yeah, yeah.
S2
You're really good at it. And I think you've converted me.
S5
Oh, good. I'm really happy about that. But it also connects you more to the person. I mean, that's why they built emojis, isn't it? Whoever had that great idea was trying to give the words some emotional expression. And obviously, if we use sound, we crash that barrier even more.
S2
Yeah. And we play. We're also better at it.
S5
Yeah, I think so.
S2
As a musician, the thing that we also covered briefly overlooked that perhaps we need to dig into a little more was the bit where I, you know, it is showing them your weak underbelly or whatever it is you're, you know, rolling over and show people. I found that meeting new people these days I'm more able because I'm more confident in myself to use the eyesight thing as a topic of conversation and an icebreaker rather than the thing that made me angry, I think, rather.
S5
Than the elephant in the room as...
S2
Well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
S5
Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, I do do that. And I think that for me, it's always worked really well because then people start to understand why you behave the way you do or why you move the way you do. Because I think people that are can see well tend to pay more attention to body language, whereas I don't because I can't. So quite often. I remember being in a relationship once with a man and he said to me, What I love about you is that although you're really attractive, you don't sort of look round going, Who's looking at? Me and thought it's only because I can't bloody see them. But he doesn't see it that way, you know. So that means that there's, there's a body language that goes on perhaps when a woman finds herself attractive. And I don't know what that's like.
S2
God, the whole eye contact - a nightmare, isn't it?
S5
Oh, it's not going to happen.
S2
No, exactly.
S5
It's not.
S2
You and I. You and I.
S5
Both flirt with anyone.
S2
You and I are both making an effort. And not not to flirt, but to talk properly to each other. And we're both pointing our heads in the right direction.
S5
Yeah, it's true. And that's as good as it gets for me because I can't tell when someone's looking at me or indeed when I'm looking at them. I mean, I'll tell you a funny story. I went to a party once. There's an amazing soul band called New Colors, and they had a party and there were lots of different people there. And this one guy came up to one of the band members from that band and said, Oh, you know, I think you should give Charlotte my number, because I think she really fancies me. But she didn't say hello. I've got no idea who this man was. But apparently I stared at him all night, but obviously I wasn't staring at him. I was probably looking at somebody else.
S2
Right. Okay. So that's not what happens to me, right? So if I'm sitting somewhere, right, what normally happens and it happened to me walking down the street, but it sometimes happens to me in pubs, okay, is my mate, my mates will tap me on the shoulder. Look over here. Why? Said Because the bloke over there thinks you're staring at him. Yeah, and he thinks he's about to come and knock your lights out. Yeah. So as a bloke you get it the other way round. And I was walking down, walking back from the supermarket the other day and a bloke came outside his house, looked at me and went, What do you want? So I was like, I so, so I guess for women it works differently than it does for men.
S5
Absolutely. I mean, this guy sounded fabulous. I wish I'd seen him. Yeah, because apparently he's beautiful, but I.
S2
Did you get your number?
S5
No. All right. Okay. I just. I just laughed at the story and thought it was amazing because she said he's sure she started to describe him and he sounds fabulous. And I was like, no, I didn't see anyone.
20:07
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There for you before. Next time.
S5
Oh, sure. We go.
S2
Yeah, come.
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On. Don't mind. Because I'm a daring person.
S2
You are a daring person. How are you professionally at the moment? What's going on? What part of the cycle are you in in terms of writing, recording, gigging?
S5
Soul to Soul has got massive tours until the end of next year, we're going to be playing the Royal Albert Hall again, which is great. And when I'm not doing that, I'm writing music and telling producers that I've finished the song when I haven't because I'm creating.
S2
Deadline Yes, that was a lovely thing we had on Monday morning. We're both of us, unbeknownst to each other. We're facing a cracking deadline and looking for something else to do so you could push it to the very limit. Yeah.
S5
Yeah. I mean, I'm singing the song tomorrow, and I've written two thirds of it and it's now gone 2:00, I think. Now I'm not sure. Yeah, well.
S2
Sorry for interfering with your afternoon, but.
S5
I know it's those interference.
S2
It's the ones where you leave it till the last minute, isn't it? Actually, all the best ones.
S5
I'm hoping for divine intervention. Um.
S2
How was Australia, by the way? We missed each other when you were down there, because I think basically you were locked in a tour bus.
S5
I was locked in a tour bus and on top of that I got sick halfway through as well. Yeah. So, yeah, my, my doctor Bill was interesting when I came.
S2
Oh, God. Yeah. You have to pay down there.
S5
Absolutely. Yeah.
S2
It gets done, though.
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Yeah. No, it was amazing. She was amazing. She was a herbal doctor as well. So I came home. I mean, you know, she gave me so much vitamin C that I've never been that brown before.
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I don't think.
S2
It turned into an orange.
S5
Basically. Yeah.
S2
But so that was an interesting thing, is when you and I trying to communicate down there again, you forgot that I couldn't see very well. So you were saying to me, I've got a problem with the app on my phone, the touring app. And I went, That's because it's not accessible, isn't it? Yeah, it's true. And it's just it can't it can't be easy or you can't have much independence when you're on tour. I guess it must be, it can't be. It can't be the rock and roll lifestyle for you that it is for everybody else.
S5
Yeah, I think that what happens is because I'm slightly crazy, I don't mind crashing and burning. I'm sort of lucky from the point of view that because the band know that I have that issue, I think the thing I worry about the most is when I'm walking on to sing back to life and I've got a good few meters to walk before I get to the microphone. And I tend to walk slowly because I don't want to do a Naomi Campbell really and go.
S2
Off the edge of the stage into the...
S5
Orchestra.
S2
No, that's not. Most of the places you play probably have orchestrated.
S5
Well, they do at the Royal Albert Hall, but they do. Other places. But, you know, just generally, marching isn't my thing.
S2
I didn't mean that. Okay? I meant the other stuff of being on tour and the again, as most radio presenters are, you know, I'm not musically talented enough to, to to do what you do. Yeah. And you know, as a kid dreamt of the rock and roll lifestyle. But if you can't get about as well as other people, it must be quite the rest of the band. Go off and get a sandwich. What do you do?
S5
I sometimes I order food or I attach myself to a person, even if they don't want me there. Yeah. So, you know, I do that when we, we've just been through that because we went to Ireland last week and I had to remind the tour manager that if we're all going to be expected to turn up individually and get ourselves through customs or Immigration or whatever you call it, I can't do that. I have to have assistants. So if none of the other band members are allowed to let me be a tag team, in a way it's like having a child you didn't ask for. Yeah, because I can, you know, manage to get my passport and my boarding card out, but I can't print them out myself and I have no idea where the gate is. So silly things like that.
S2
Do you not ask for assistance from the airport people?
S5
I do if I'm by myself. The reason I don't do it when I'm with the band is because in my mind they shouldn't mind me being there and taking responsibility because we're all going in the same direction. And so the only time when I would do that is if I was working with a group of people I didn't know very well, right? Because I would feel then that we're not friends and it's not their job to, you know, to help me out. But these particular guys I've worked with for 15, 16 years, so I'll call them and say, look, is it fine if I just tag on to you with whatever you're doing? Because if I've got to be in the airport by myself, I have to get assistance. I won't be able to be loose like everybody else.
S2
Okay. So that's what happens when you're getting to wherever it is you're going. Yeah. What what happens.
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Afterwards?
S5
Well, afterwards, it's pretty much the same thing. So if we have like an after party or we've got another gig or we've got to be back on the tour bus and stuff like that, what I do is I landmark quite a lot because I can see a small amount, even though it's not very good. I look for the biggest landmarks of where I am. Check times and places. Okay, so say for instance, the tour bus is parked near, I don't know, a massive oak tree. Yeah, I might say to the tour guy, is is this bus going to stay near the oak tree? Because if it moves like when I just tried to find the glycerin and boot to put it on another counter. So to me, there's no glycerine. Yeah, it's the same with everything else. I have to landmark things all the time and have checkpoints.
26:02
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God wasn't a nightmare. It's a nightmare because you go into a supermarket and I certainly didn't try anything new for two years. Yeah, because what you do instinctively is you pick up the packets and the thing that we've both done today is take photos of the menu and squinted it on our phones. But you couldn't pick things up and touch them for two years.
S5
No, you couldn't. I know you had.
S2
To know where they...
S5
Were. Yeah. And the one thing that I think is really amazing that I do go through a lot, which I don't get to share any disclosure with the person who's doing it. But the guards in the shop, you know, are there to make sure people don't steal. They just hate me because they are convinced that I'm going to steal. I only know that they're looking at me because I can feel it energetically. Yeah, because I need to look so closely at everything. Yeah.
S2
Because as someone who's been trained in what's it called? Shrinkage. Yeah. Which is. Which is the, you know, the security stuff in the shop. Yeah. Basically you look for people who are behaving differently. Yeah, that's...
S5
Right. And I do behave differently. So there was, I mean, even years ago when I used to travel to America quite a lot to do shows over there. And at one point I was going to America every two weeks. So because I was traveling so much, I took a really small case because my outfit was quite small, because I could fit in a small outfit there. And then, you know, sometimes because I was lazy, I'd take my daughter's little Mickey Mouse case. And then obviously my eyes are all over the place. And I probably had on a strange outfit. So without a doubt, they pulled me every time at the airport. They were like, Come this...
S7
Way, please.
S2
My my friends refuse to walk through airports with me. Yeah. Grown men have run to leave me. Behind. There's a very long story which I'll tell you one day over a drink about my strip search on the way back from Amsterdam.
S7
Oh, yeah. One one of the one.
S2
Of the two people traveling was carrying a tulip umbrella, and the bloke from customs stops. Excuse me, gentlemen. Where have you come from today? It wasn't me. It was my friend. Brought a bit of umbrella for his mum. Guess which one gets strip search and which one doesn't? Yeah, exactly.
S5
I know. And it's true. It happens. I mean, it still happens now and again as well. I think because. Because I behave differently. I'm the girl. And you know, the risk of sounding rude, I am with a lot of black people with dreadlocks who look like they smoke a lot. I don't smoke at all, but they probably think, oh, well, if you know anyone's carrying anything, it might be her. So we'll pull her anyway because she looks a bit odd.
S7
Oh, God, you're a nightmare.
S5
Well, it's become. It's become the band joke. The running...
S7
Joke?
S2
Yeah, the drug. You're the...
S7
Drug mule. I am? Yeah.
S5
Because I'm the least obvious person, but I act the strangest.
S2
Oh, listen, Charlotte, I can't thank you enough. And I'm sorry we don't have longer than this because I could talk to you for hours. You're amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this at such short notice.
S7
Thanks so much.
S2
Yeah. And Blinding Vision. Quickly, let's quickly talk about that. What's that? What's that about?
S5
Blinding vision is to promote the independence and happiness and well-being of blind and partially sighted people. Okay. And to give others more understanding of what our world is like. Sharing ideas, really on living.
S2
Well, if there's anything I can do to help with that, and I know we need to talk about editing audio and stuff properly, don't we?
S7
Absolutely. Right.
S2
We'll have a...
S7
Chat.
29:38
S2
Thank you. Actually, Joe, something. Something I wanted to talk to you about. Yes. You mentioned this again over lunch. You do the fasting thing.
S7
Yes.
S2
Because obviously you have to be healthy and fit and...
S5
You know, try and be...
S7
Slim.
S2
Well, again, that's as a as a father of daughters. Yeah. That is something you worry about that that is so important these days. As a mother of daughters. Yeah. What do you how do we tackle that big topic? It's still clearly in some ways affects you, I guess. I don't know.
S5
Yeah, it does. It's I mean, I like the fasting and I get on with it. I don't know whether it's because of the fasting or to do with being older or what it is, but I have some days where I just can't see anything at all and it's just, you know, ridiculous.
S2
I'm only saying this because I'm concerned about you and I'm going it on the record.
S7
Oh, that's...
S5
Very kind.
S7
Of oh, Brains.
S2
Have to work harder than other people's brains.
S5
Yeah, they really, really do. And I mean, I think I'm getting a grip on it. I mean, fasting is supposed to be good for you, but there is what I'm learning is there is a way to do it. It's not time restricted eating. It's not the same as time restricted eating. It's a different thing altogether. And I've only just realised that. So it has a process to it and I think if you're going to do it well, you have to take obviously from the experts who are living what they do. I follow a lady called Dr. Mindy just because I think she's great. She's on YouTube. She's been a doctor for a long time. She looks healthy and she has naughty moments and she loves protein.
S7
Okay.
S2
She can.
S7
Yeah...
S2
Again, I just keep your sugars up and don't fall over. Yes.
S7
No.
S5
No spinning for me.
S7
No, indeed.
S2
So thank you so much.
S7
Thank you.
31:36
S2
Right. That's your lot for this week. Thank you so much to Charlotte Kelley for well, picking up the phone to me and then meeting me. It was absolute pleasure to spend some time with a good interview that I'm on at Sam.
S4
It was. And I'm rather surprised anyone wants to talk to you again. But still. And of course, thank you for listening.
S2
Next week, the mining magnate who lost his sight to glaucoma in his late 40s. He now travels the world trying to raise awareness and prevent the same thing happening to other people.
S4
Between now and then. Please do get in touch with the show, whether you have experience of any of the issues covered in this episode of Studio One or if you think there's something we should be talking about, you never know. Your story and your insight may help somebody else who is dealing with something similar.
S2
You can email Studio one at Vision Australia. Org, that Studio one at Vision Australia. Org And you can find us on Twitter. The radio station can be found at Radio Network and I can be found at apparently x.com/whingeing POM.
S4
And the only question is...
S1
Why Vision Australia Radio gratefully acknowledges the support of the Community Broadcasting Foundation for Studio One.